Skip to content

“With war, everything is lost,” Pope Francis reiterates on Italian television.

Pope Francis at the "A sua Imagine" program.

In an interview on the Italian program “A Sua Immagine” (In His Image), Pope Francis called for peace and insisted that “everything can be lost with war.”

By attending this interview, Pope Francis has become the first Pontiff to visit a television studio.

The recording took place on May 27 at the Italian RAI television station in Saxa Rubra and was broadcast on Sunday morning, June 4.

During the interview, Pope Francis spoke about wars and affirmed that “it is a story as old as humanity: with the peace, we always win, perhaps little, but we win.”

On the contrary, he stressed that “with war, everything is lost, and the supposed gains are losses.”

In this sense, he recalled the words of Pius XII, who, at the beginning of the Second World War, defended that “with peace, nothing is lost. Everything can be lost with war”.

Referring to the countries suffering from war, especially Ukraine, the Holy Father lamented that “there is a pleasure in torture.”

He explained that “we are seeing it in war, in war movies, the pleasure… And so many soldiers are working there torturing Ukrainian soldiers. I have seen the movies. And this sometimes happens with the boys.”

Pope Francis was also asked about other topics, such as the Jubilee 2025, which he referred to as an occasion “to bring everyone closer to each other, to God, to dissolve problems, to forgive.”

He also highlighted the media’s vital role and assured that they “must help people to meet, to understand each other, to make friends and to keep away the little devils that ruin people’s lives.”

He also spoke about the meaning of pain when he met a mother who had lost her son and recalled the importance of “tenderness” and of “accompanying pain.

“I was also accompanied in the moment of pain. One thing I learned when I had that illness at the age of 21, almost until death: in the face of pain, only gestures and words are useful… There are no words for pain, only gestures, and silence”, he expressed.

 

This article was originally published on ACI Prensa.

Receive the most important news from EWTN Vatican via WhatsApp. It has become increasingly difficult to see Catholic news on social media. Subscribe to our free channel today

Share

Would you like to receive the latest updates on the Pope and the Vatican

Receive articles and updates from our EWTN Newsletter.

More news related to this article

Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican secretary of state. | Credit: Daniel Ibáñez/ACI Prensa

Vatican urges Catholics not to leave Pope Leo XIV alone in opposing war

The Vatican Secretary of State said the pope’s appeals for peace need concrete support. VATICAN CITY — Vatican

EWTN CEO Michael Warsaw reflects on life and legacy of Mother Angelica on her 100th birthday

Michael Warsaw attends a Solemn Mass for the 100th birthday of Mother Angelica in Rome, April 20, 2023.
Cardinals gather in the Sistine Chapel. Credit: Screenshot EWTN Vatican

One Cardinal Speaks about Pope Leo XIV’s Conclave

Polish Cardinal Grzegorz Ryś is among the youngest cardinals that participated in the last conclave.   In an exclusive

Pope Francis to canonize new female saint known as ‘an apostle of the Holy Spirit’

Pope Francis has approved a miracle attributed to the intercession of Blessed Elena Guerra, paving the way for the canonization of a new female saint known as “an apostle of the Holy Spirit.”

Ahead of Pope Leo XIV’s historic visit, Lebanese recall past papal trips

Anticipation is building across Lebanon as the country prepares to welcome Pope Leo XIV next week. The visit

St. Peter’s Holy Door sealed Jan. 16

The Holy Door of St. Peter’s Basilica, the last of four papal basilicas for the Jubilee of Hope,

LIVE
FROM THE VATICAN

Be present live on EWTNVatican.com